SALISBURY DIFF ON A 90

[DFR]

I have a 90 and a 110 donor vehicle which I am swapping the 200 Tdi into but I am also thinking about swapping over the axles as well, bigger front brakes and salisbury diff on the rear. Has anyone put a salisbury diff on a 90, does it fit ok or are there any alterations needed to the prop shaft etc

cheers Dom

[ibexman]

check out www.red-ibex.com under modifications and then rear salisbury axle.
hth
dom

[Brains]

http://www.red-ibex.com/Salisbury_rear.htm

[landyman Ash]

Thats cool but going back to question.  

Does the prop need adjusting?? Will axle just bolt on?

I think it will but i'd love to know for sure

[Xtremeteam]

the axle bolts straight on the hole apart from having to change the spring plates from 110 ones to 90 ones as the spring is a different diameter,also you need a longer prop by about 2 inchs IIRC

[landyman Ash]

the axle bolts straight on the hole apart from having to change the spring plates from 110 ones to 90 ones as the spring is a different diameter,also you need a longer prop by about 2 inchs IIRC

Well done Mike.

did think of having a sailsbury but since going TDi have not blown a single diff or half shaft.

[DFR]

cheers for your help and advice. Doing the engine change over this weekend, will tackle the axles over the next week or so, will let you know how I get on

Dom

[Litch]

the axle bolts straight on the hole apart from having to change the spring plates from 110 ones to 90 ones as the spring is a different diameter,also you need a longer prop by about 2 inchs IIRC

Longer, are you sure?
When you do a Salisbury transplant onto a Series SWB you have to SHORTEN the prop because the Salisbury has a longer nose.

I like Salisbury axles but I don't think there is anything to gain by fitting one to a 90, why not just use a 4-pinnion diff & 24-spline shafts in your existing or a disc-braked casing, that's what I've done?

[Xtremeteam]

sorry ill take that back,was on auto pilot,

IMHO fitting a salsbury is a sure fire way of having an unbreakable rear end,had one on my racer 90 & even after the front end had jumped out & gone home i could still continue at 97% full pace,
where as with a 4 pin & 24 spline setup you can still break them easily,ive seen many broken & not a sals broken yet  

[DFR]

the TDI engine and gear box and power steering has now been done, 15 hurs work over the weekend. 2 engines out and 1 in, not bad go between 2 of us.

Tea poisoning and loss of skin on the knuckles was well worth it.

If anyone needs any parts there are a few still left then let me know what you need and I will tell if I still have them

going to tackle the axles probably next week

[ferret]

Fitted one on my v8 90 and you just need to swap the spring bases off your old axle and get a 2" shorter prop made (wide angle). prop shaft clinic will make one to order for you.
As has already been said they are strong and i swapped mine over when i kept breaking my old axle with 35" simex's but have had no problems since.

[Henry Webster]

I have seen Salisburys break, but there's no question they are tough!

Personally I would shy away from them for two reasons.  

Firstly the diff casing is significantly bigger and reduces your ground clearance and secondly they are considerably heavier than a 90 axle.

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

[dew1911]

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

Explains why Mike had one :lol:

[Litch]

I have seen Salisburys break, but there's no question they are tough!

Personally I would shy away from them for two reasons.  

Firstly the diff casing is significantly bigger and reduces your ground clearance and secondly they are considerably heavier than a 90 axle.

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

Agreed, although I have never broken one myself I have seen it done and replacing a Salisbury diff is more involved than replacing a Rover one, you have to weigh up the pro's of having a stronger diff & halfshafts agains the difficulty of repair if it does decide to go. Likewise the prop, if you manage to make mincmeat of the rear prop (been there, done that and i'm not just refering to the UJ's either) you have to get a new one made instead of just buying one off the shelf.
Fully agree about the weight, at a guess which is made on personal experience of lugging them around I would say the un-sprung weight is doubled when using a Salisbury.
I seem to recall you loose about 1-inch in under-axle clearaence with the Salisbury against the Rover axle.

Don't get me wrong, love Salisburys and used them for many years front & rear and they are pretty bullet-proof but like everything, not quite indestructable.

When I was in the AWDC many years ago a couple of the guys were looking at using Ford P100 rear axles on their LR based racers, they are also Salisbury's but of a smaller (and therefore lighter) design. They also liked the ratio fitted in these vehicles but I can't remember how they were going to get a matching ratio for the front axle, anyone come across this conversion since?

[Xtremeteam]

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

Explains why Mike had one :lol:

your gettin a slap when i see you, then again who has went out & competed & tried things?

[dew1911]

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

Explains why Mike had one :lol:

your gettin a slap when i see you, then again who has went out & competed & tried things?

Who has went out? Nice to see the scottish have a firm grasp of the English language... :roll:

All in Jest mate, all in jest ;) :lol:

[Henry Webster]

Unless you are going to go silly with huge tyres, tons of power and a brain out attitude to driving, I wouldn't bother!

H

Explains why Mike had one :lol:

Couldn't possibly comment! :lol:   It might also have something to do with the fact that Mikee's old racer used to be a 110!

H

[Henry Webster]

When I was in the AWDC many years ago a couple of the guys were looking at using Ford P100 rear axles on their LR based racers, they are also Salisbury's but of a smaller (and therefore lighter) design. They also liked the ratio fitted in these vehicles but I can't remember how they were going to get a matching ratio for the front axle, anyone come across this conversion since?

P100 axles, interesting - I've not seen that conversion done, though I do know that the ex-Forestry Commission ones had a Quaife ATB (Torque Biasing) diff as standard Ford fitment!

On the P100 theme - this is the latest in P100 off road mods!



This one's due to make its debut before the end of the year - The Venom ProTruck! :shock: